The
Ford Flathead Engine
The Dis-Assembly
07-21-08
Today we began Project: Flat-Head , this is a project within a project. As you might or might not know, we are building Project COBRA'33, a 1933 Tudor Sedan that will be fully up-dated with all of the offerings of today. The engine from this project is how we started on Project:Flathead .
These are the many parts we also had blasted. While we are going to sell most of them, I had them blasted anyway to remove the dirt and rust. This makes them easier to handle and hopefully more valuable.
Oil Pan
08-15-07
Crank-Shaft
Fly-Wheel
Pressure Plate
Clutch Plate
Block

Items Needed to make the Ignition System Work
1. New MSD 8351 Distributor
Pro-Billet Front Mount Flathead Distributors
NOTE: Must be used with an MSD 6, 7, 8 or 10 Series Ignition.
Early Flathead racers and cruisers alike will be excited to see these new front mount Flathead Distributors! These distributors are built around a CNC machined billet aluminum housing for precise tolerances.
The distributor is topped off with MSD’s new Crab Cap with spark plug style terminals for improved wire connections. Just under the cap and Rynite race rotor is MSD’s adjustable mechanical advance. This assembly features chrome moly construction with TIG-welded weight pins to secure the precision fine blanked weights. MSD supplies different advance springs and stop bushings so you can dial-in an advance curve to meet your Flathead’s specs.
Just under the advance is MSD’s race proven magnetic pickup. This pickup, combined with a reluctor, produces accurate trigger signals that are responsible for firing the MSD Ignition Control. Bring your Flathead up-to-date with MSD performance.
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4. Ignition Coil
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MSD Blaster Coils
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We will be using chrome tube type wire looms from Speedway Motors. They were by far the most competitive with reguards to the looms and have always done a great job of getting me the parts I needed fast and accurate.



Items Needed To Make the Fuel Injection
Engine Build-up
09-19-07
Today was an interesting day, we set out to do something I have never done before......Powerder-Coat.
I bought the gun, power unit, powder and everything else needed to powder-coat several years ago, and just never used it, till today. And the what was the first progect..?? Project:Flathead, of-coarse. I had cleaned the block several times and it had even been sand-blasted several months ago, all in getting ready for this day. The final clean was to wipe everything down with solvent and blow it dry. I have a small oven, so the block wasn't going to fit in there, instead.. I planed to use 4-2000W heat lamps I have, each on there own roller stand. I know this is a huge block of Iron to heat, and I had my doubts about weather this would work or not.
The color I picked was Electric Blue, and I took a sifter to it before loading the powder into the container to be sure there wasn't any lumps or pieces to large. That worked really well, just I need a larger funnel for the next batch. This stuff is really fine, and has a liquid like fluidity. It will get every where!!
The set-up is very simple, just plug in the power unit, attach the ground wire and lay-out the foot-switch where it will be convenient to use while you are applying the powder. Then just load the powder into the canister and attach the air line. I made up a regulator with gauge and a moisture filter, so that they will plug into the application wand, this makes air adjustment simple and very convenient. You can simple UN-plug the unit when you are finished and it stores very nicely. Air consumption is minimal, and you only need a few pounds of air pressure.
In order to heat the block to the required 400°f temperature, I used a torch to pre-heat the block. If you had smaller and lighter objects to coat, the heating lamps would work nicely, but the thick and solid engine block took some extra heat to make everything work. All in all, I'm very pleased with the way it turned out, I gave it two (2) coats and the coverage and color looks very good. I did not get the look I would have if I would have taken it to a professional powder-coater, who had an oven large enough to hold the whole block. But, I also didn't have to pay the 250-300 dollars they would have charged..... Don't get me wrong, I have spent plenty one the basic set-up and supplies, but stating with these block, those expenditures are starting to make a return. The rest of the day was spent cleaning the clutch pressure plate, front cover, flywheel and starter for powder-coating tomorrow if everything goes as planed. I had to use booth solvent and sand blasting on these pieces to get them into condition. These pieces will be small enough to fit in the oven, so I'm expecting them to come out looking great, we'll see tomorrow.
09-20-07
Well today we powder-coated parts for the very first time. It was a pretty good learning experiance, and I can tell I got better with practice. I had some Mercedes Silver and used that on most of the parts, it's a nice medium type silver. We also experimented a little with Clear, and Super Chrome. The flywheel got he Super Chrome, and the Starter and Pulley got the Clear. It's really cool to see how things work and interact with each other. I wouldn't call any of the parts we coated, professional looking, but they did turn out very nice for the first time use of powder coating equipment and matterials. It's funny, when you are applying the powder it looks and feels like your useing a bunch of powder, but all the parts, with some second coats only took a few ounces.
This is or Flat-head block after yesterdays Powder-coating exercise. It turned out pretty good, but i could have used just a bit more heat.
These are the parts we Powder-coated, or at least most of them. The flywheel is not pictured.
I'll take some pictures of the finished product latter, next time I get to go down to the shop. I have to order some gaskets and stuff for the Flathead, so we can keep moving forward. I suppose we are very close to starting the headers. They will be fun, and I'm looking forward to building them.
09-21-07
Today we didn't work on Project:Flathead, but we did get alot of things done for that project. As you may or may not remember, I had to do some body work on the oil pan because of some dents. This ment I could now no longer powder-coat it, so it will have to be painted by more traditional means. One thing we did today was to pick out the color and have the paint mixed. I wanted a smokey grey/silver with some metalic, and hopefully the color I picked will reflect that. They didn't have a very organized color chart like say House Of Color has, instead it was organized by year and make. That works fine for those in autobody, but not so fine for those tring to find a perticular shade of color. I went to the local auto-parts wherehouser and they mixed the paint for me. I also got some clear and some cleaning supplies to keep my spray gun in good working order. All told, $140.00 was the damage, but that figure isn't really representable of what it cost to pain the oil pan.
PARTS PLUS
DITJC661-QT HI-GLOSS MULTI-PANEL 15.85
DITJH6670-8OZ FAST HARDENER 12.85
DITJR506-GL MEDIUM REDUCER 20.00
DITJH6002-8OZ ACRYLIC ENAMEL 21.00
D/BA44L DURA-BLOCK SANDING KIT 50.49
TAX 7.93
140.12
Like I stated, this list contains enough matterials to do several projects, so that price would have to be spread over all the projects to be fair. I will say I was impressed with the guys down at the parts shop, they had me out the door in no time. This was the first time I used this place, my regular paint store was sold and is now a fire place accessory store.
The other thing I got done today was to find some long 5/16" bolts to hold my starter together. The original screews were not there, so I hed to get them. I checked all the Flathead parts stores, and know one sells them, they have the ones for the generators, but not the starters. I found some 5/16" x 8" bolts at the local hardware store so I think they will do.
One thing I forget to record, was the order I placed yesterday for some Flathead parts. I ordered them from Mac's.
MAC's ANTIQUE AUTO PARTS
18-6020 FRONT TIMING COVER GASKET 0.95
40-6521 V-8 INTAKE MANIFOLD GASKET 4.90
48-6781 V-8 OIL PAN GASKET 9.75
52-6730 OIL PAN DRAIN PLUG 4.95
52-6734 DRAIN PLUG GASKET 1.05
48-6750 OIL PAN DIP STICK 8.95
48-6754-B DIP STICK TUBE 6.25
A8115 BRASS DRAIN COCK 2 @ 4.95 9.90
78-8507 WATER PUMP GASKETS 2 @ .55 1.10
SHIPPING 12.85
60.65
Today I also ordered what I hope will be the last parts for the Project:Flathead. They all came from Speedway Motors, which I just so happen to think is the best mail order parts house out there. There website is bar-none the best going, and they have great customer service and very , very competitive pricing. This one order right here would have been more then $100.00 extra most other places.
SPEEDWAY MOTORS
91021003 Flathead Intake gasket 7.99
91015962 Speedway Intake Manifold 399.99
3251125 Edelbrock Finned Heads 499.99
91667908 Alternator bracket, plain 39.99
271H10 Champion Spark Plugs 8 @2.99 23.92
1353274 Ford frame adapters 24.99
91612001 SS Wire Looms 49.99
5478203 MSD Blaster Coil 44.99
5478203 MSD Coil Mount 5.99
shipping 41.02
$1,138.00
I also just remembered a Chrome Chevy Alternator I purchased from E-bay for 79.00. I will use this with the alternator mount we just ordered from Speedway on the Flathead instead of the generator. Realisticly, the generator isn't a good match for todays sensitive electronics, so converting it over to the alternator is a smart move, besides it can put out 100A compared to the generators 30.
09-22-07
Man was it hot today, who would know it's the first day of Fall tomarrow?? Dispite the heat, we did get alot none today. My Dad was working on installing the door skins on ProjectCOBRA'33, so while he was grinding or sanding the door for proper fit, I worked on the Flathead. First up was getting the Oil pan sanded and then painted. I had already applied the body filler and rough sanded it out. So that left me with finish sanding, sand blasting some rust spots that grew since it was sand blasted way back when. I say it took me 2-2-1/2 hours to get the pan ready, it's not perfect by any means, but I don't want it perfect. It's an oil pan from a 1946 Flathead, and I want it to look it's age, just cleaned up a bit. I really liked the paint I choose, it was easy to work with and the application part was smooth. I foregot my camera, but I'll be sure to take it with me next time and I'll get caught up on the picture taking side of things.....I promise.
The starter was missing the mounting bolts and I tried to order them from the mail order houses, but know one sold them.....so I made some. I took 2- 8-1/2" long 5/16" carrage bolts and cut the end off both of them, then I welded a 3/8" stainless steel nut to each end. A little time on the grinder and presto, 2 new 5/16" starter bolts. I kind of wished I would have waited on the powder-coating. I really like the new color of the oil pan, and I would have liked to spray some of the other parts in the same color. They would have looked much better, cause some of the powder-coated items clumped up alittle. The new color is super glossy and I like the smoky metalic color.
I got to looking at the engine block, and while the color looks nice, the finish is slightly off. The areas where there was plenty of heat, mainly the ends, is noticably more glossy then the sides. So...I decided to give it a coat of clear, and after roughtly 3 coats of clear it looks really nice. All the surfaces are equal now and it brought the color out and made it a little more bright, I like it, and I think you will too. I suppose thats it for now, we have the parts coming in latter this week, which will allow us to button-up the engine.
09-26-07
Wow, today turned out great! What started as a mild build-up has turned into a all out, bare no expense, get out of our way we're going to the front of the class make over. The ideal today was to just set the engine on the engine stand and maybe install a few parts, but that went out the door fast, and before I knew it the day was long gone and we had a real good loking engine in front of us. This is how it went down.
I was running a little behind today, so I didn't get to the shop till 10:15. I started out by getting the engine off the lift and bolted to the engine stand. I am so glade we clear coated the engine, it just made the color jump out at you. The differance is amazing and well worth the expense and time it took. We got the engine loaded on the stand and wheeled it over to one of our benchs and started by fliping it over and working on the bottom of the engine. We installed the bearings and greased them, them installed the crank-shaft and then the main caps. Then the oil pan gasket and the front and rear crank-shaft seals. This is somewhat confussing, and takes some time to get everything alined just right. The rear and front seal needs to be rolled, so they expaind and fit into the carrier. The rear seal is the most time consumming, and probally the most important interms of oil control. Just take your time and get everything in line and in-order. The pan goes on pretty easy, with only a minimal amount of finessing needed. We used the stainless steel pan bolts from the kit we purchased way back. Oh, let me back up a little. Before we installed the oil pan, I had to install two(2) oil return fittings, we mentioned them earlier. Both were AN-10 fittings and had to be installed so they were above the normal oil level, this way they would allow the oil to drain back from the turbo-chargers. On a Flathead engine, this isin't as easy as you might thing. The oil pan is very close to all the crankshaft throws, and with the rods attached, the bolts are very, very close to the pans insides. The only place that would work on a flatdead, is the area right were the middle main bearing is located. This area is about 2" wide and the crank-shaft bearing throws are on each side of it, so you have no interfearance. The only other consideration is the oil pan attachment bolt right in that area, try to offset the fitting so the pan bolt can be installed. Our fitting has is a bolt-on type fitting witha internal and external gasket. If you were to use a weld-in type fitting, you would have more options, as the portion that fits inside the pan would be much smaller. As it would turn-out, the area we mounted our fitting works just fine for the oi pan and the turbo-chargers we will be installing, your situation might be different, so compare the differances between the two (2) styles of fittings.
Once the Oil-pan was installed we installed the starter, with those same bolts we fabricated the other day, and that went smoothly, the bolts worked great. Now we rolled the engine over and started on the top side. We installed the two (2) water pumps and their gaskets, again we used the stainless steel bolts supplied in the kit we purchased. Then the front cover and Mallery distributor, and the front was finished and looking good. Next we cut off all the tape we applied to the head studs to protect the threads from the powder-coating, and installed the new Elderbrock heads and Speedway Motros Inatke manifold. Now the engine was really looking right! First problem, the head studs along the bottom edge of the block were not long enough. With the aluminum heads, we will need to install longer heads studs. It would have been very convienent if someone would have told us about this problem. Or if say Elderbrock would have supplied the longer head studs with there heads. None of the catalogs or web sites mention this little problem.....Why? I have no problem, maybe they think you wont buy there heads if you learn you have to remove the head studs and replace them with longer ones??? I installed the Wire looms and the spark plug wires to get a feel of what else will be needed. The fuel injectors will interfeer with them as they were installed, so we'll have to find another way around this problem. Also, I'm not to crasy about the RAJA plug ends, they seem very odd and don't offer one bit of insullation for the plugs. I know they were used years ago, but this might be on of those items were we change to something more modern and reliable. We'll tackle that problem latter, right now we are to the point were we will be starting the header build. I installed the exhaust manifold flange, and it fit great, I just had to clean-out all the bolt holes with a tap to remove the matterial that made it's way into the holes. The header is going to be a real chalenge, I'm thinking about making them Equal Length headers which is an alltogether different animal then just plain headers, I'll see how difficult it will be then make up my mine, right now I'm up for the challenge, and think it would be a cool new ideal.
This just about wraps up the flathead for this section. We did install the new brass block drains on each side. These came in in 1/8" NPT, so I had to install 2-1/4" to 1/8" NPT bushings. I prefer this arangment, It makes future removeal easier, as the brass on brass fittings don't usually seaze-up. The Oil feed for the turbo's was the same way. We installed the same brass 1/4" to 1/8' NPT fittings then the AN-4-1/8" NPT aluminum fittings. This gives us the two (2) An-4 oil feed lines we will need for the two (2) turbo-chargers we will be installing, and earilier we installed the two (2) oil drain fittings in the oil pan they will both need. Oh, we also installed the chrome chevrolet alternator and the new alternator bracket. This system looks pretty nice and it went on without problem, now all I need is the proper belt to finish it off. The belt was ordered from Vintage Ford, along with some other small odds and ends we will need.
Order from Sacramento Vintage Ford
5771-2 1942-1948 long belt 19.95
17115-B Color coded plug wires 39.95
The rest of the order was a health supply of decals and t-ee shirts, this company has a really nice selection of both.
Order form Mac's Antique Auto Parts
48-6067 3.09" head studs 38-48' 24 ea 42.00
V8033125B Head stud Washers 48 ea 8.50
And a couple pictures of the 1933 Ford Tudor Sedan
Just a little taste of what were doing over in section IV
For more information of the Project:Flathead project see section IV, Putting it all Together.